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http://justoldlights.tumblr.com/post/95091127810/i-crave-bucky-natasha-like-its-the-air-i-breathe

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I crave Bucky/Natasha like it’s the air I breathe. And fuck Widow’s MCU backstory, that’s crap. I want them to have history. Decades of it. I want the Red Room and young Nat cynical, bitter Yasha who sometimes cares, even when he doesn’t want to. I want double missions and fighting together and…

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No but

I see a lot of gifsets and comments about Steve’s iconic line in CA: TWS “This isn’t freedom. This is fear,” but

What about the shit that Fury throws in his face before that?

Fury: "For once we are way ahead of the curve." 
Steve: 
"By holding a gun to everyone on Earth and calling it protection."
Fury:
 ”You know I read those SSR files. The Greatest Generation? You guys did some nasty stuff. “
Steve: “Yeah. We compromised. Sometimes in ways that made us not sleep so well. But we did it so that people could be free. This isn’t freedom. This is fear.”

[snip]

YES, let’s keep talking!!  I’ve bolded your sentence because that’s the key, isn’t it?  HYDRA was invented to be a cleaner, more unambiguously evil enemy, and I can see the logic behind that — let’s make it more less messy, and easier for you to cheer on the good guy.  I’ve seen people point out elsewhere that that’s why Steve’s in the European theater and not in the Pacific, and why, really, Steve *had* to go down in 1944, before all the *really* horrible stuff was done or has come to light.   But Steve wasn’t even fighting the Nazis — by fighting HYDRA, it’s so clean cut. He goes from being a propaganda symbol to fighting pure evil.  This is why I always frown a bit at the “I don’t like bullies” line and the “we did it for freedom, not fear” stuff above.  Because it’s *never* that simple. How is Steve defining bullies and freedom?  What gives him the right to define it? If Steve doesn’t like bullies, what about the fact that he’s essentially bullied into being a propaganda mouthpiece?  What does he think about all the “bullying” of the Japanese internment camps?  Considering that he was fighting against fascism, is freedom conflated with democracy in his mind?  Forget the surveillance state — what does Steve think about the rise of corporate power?

What I love about Steve is that he’s usually portrayed as someone who *would* care, and wouldn’t shy away from standing up for what’s right.  But in the flow of the story, it’s easy to just take the simplified version and not question it further.    Especially since Steve himself is the very embodiment of the issue of eugenics.  (You can’t really talk about Hitler’s eugenics without getting into the fact that US’s own eugenics programs were going strong.)   Steve grew up in a country where he was seen as “unfit” (see: chronically ill steve rogers), and if he were a woman of color, might have been force-sterilized.  And his way out of this was through half-volunteering (being hand-picked by Erskine and told later what he was picked for — does that count as volunteering?) for a a eugenics program with high experimental risk.  The same program that generated “More Evil Than Hitler” Red Skull.  Talk about the sense of American exceptionalism necessary to say, “hey, it worked because this poor IMMIGRANT kid had the HEART and the GUMPTION to embody AMERICA.”  Let’s ignore/erase his past of being bullied by American society, let’s ignore the co-opting of his body by the military.  Let’s all pretend that this is part of a singular narrative of the American Dream.

So really, Steve himself is the compromise.  And given how much trouble he has in TWS figuring out what he should do with his life, wondering if he’s allowed to do something besides work for the military or SHIELD, I’m not sure whether he got the freedom he compromised for.

The above commentary is much closer to my reading of Steve Rogers than the OP’s meta. (I apologize in advance if I diverge too far from the above commenters’ interpretations of canon.) While I agree on a Watsonian level that “Steve isn’t a Greatest Generation man because he hasn’t lived enough to romanticize that period”, on a Doylist level that doesn’t even matter because Steve Rogers is fandom’s Greatest Generation man. He’s our romantic fantasy of What America Should Be, and CA:TWS is our white liberal fantasy of how we can “fix” our broken society. (Hint: it starts with fixing a man’s disabilities until he embodies Hitler’s Aryan ideal. It’s okay, it’s ~ironic. Step two: give him the respect owed to a WWII veteran without him having actually fought in WWII.)

I don’t disagree with anything Steve Rogers says or does in CA:TWS, but I’m frustrated by comparisons of Steve vs Fury that ignore race and historical context. We’ve already established that Steve has absolutely jack shit to do with WWII. What can he possibly say about freedom that an African-American man who lived through the Civil Rights era couldn’t say better? It’s extremely problematic, IMHO, to position Steve as “pro-freedom” and Fury as “anti-freedom”. The only Latino character is retconned as a double-agent for a white supremacist regime. Howard Stern, a Jewish-American politician (“Stern” is predominately a Jewish last name), is a card-carrying Nazi. Add all this with the Age of Ultron spoiler that the Jewish-Roma children of two Holocaust survivors have apparently cooperated with HYDRA, and honestly — I’m not shocked that there are people confused about which character is the Nazi, Sam Wilson or Grant Ward.

When I say “representation matters”, I don’t just mean having a solo female superhero film or more characters of colour — I mean changing the way these stories are being told, changing which characters get to play which roles, changing who gets to speak for me, who gets to be “right”, who gets to take action and be the hero. Just watch the news and tell me that CA:TWS is a story that’s a genuine reflection of our world’s problems, rather than an oversimplified version which conveniently exchanges an old white man as political authority for a young white man as moral authority. Tell me that black and Latino men are the ones banging the drums for more militarization, more surveillance, more violations of their human rights, and that young white men are the ones clamouring for a revolution. As much as I love Steve Rogers, he’s become a white liberal fantasy that potentially undermines the voices of minority groups, and I’m really really glad that Sam Wilson will be Captain America soon — not stuck as the Model Minority who does what Steve does, just slower. It’s about damn time that we can hold up someone other than a white guy and say, “Listen, that’s our Captain speaking, the man who embodies freedom and justice. This man is everything America should strive to become, this is the leader we need to follow, and nobody else can compare.”

OMG the bolded.  The whole thing, really.  I think that’s the thing that’s always rubbed me the wrong way about this fandom.  (Don’t get me wrong, I love the thoughtfulness and the creativity of this fandom, and the general care this fandom puts towards being historically accurate.  But very fundamentally, the source material skirts/erases important issues, which then makes it hard to put back in.   And it’s too easy to ignore the race and historical context of things involving Fury because it’s made a non-issue in the films.  Just as the Howling Commandos being such a diverse group in a historical time period of segregated armies was never addressed in the film, so it is harder to address it in the fandom.  (How about newsreels directors explicitly asking Gabe or Morita to stay out of the picture?  How about the fact that in CATWS, Peggy clearly married a white guy who’s not Gabe?)

Urg I want so much more complexity to Captain America but Marvel’s found the perfect balance of fluff and faux complexity to entertain/satisfy mainstream audiences.

YES. Bless this. It’s given me so much to think about re: my own reading of Steve (and the CA:TWS universe in general) that I hadn’t thought about implicitely ignoring before(which wow, that’s the point isn’t it?) 

Bless. Bless all. 

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I think I’m getting growing pains in my legs rn and I’m 23

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